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THE LAST DRAGON "Sho Nuff" - Intermission

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THE LAST DRAGON "Sho Nuff" - Intermission

Postby Charles on Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:24 pm

This forum topic concerns the intermission after the end of the epilogue for Shadowgirls Season 1: Shared Destiny, starting with "Sho Nuff"

Awesome stuff. Becka's Grandmother (Charon's mother) Moira McKay is THE MASTER of the Esoteric Order of Dagon!

We can now see the scar on her torso from where Christmas Snow stabbed her, she has a missing left eye that she can hide with a glamor spell (except in reflections) and her normal eye colour is green. She appears to mostly resemble her daughter and granddaughter except for the different eye colour.

As far as anyone knew she had gone missing when Charon was 4 years old, together with her husband, Charon's Father, Ian McKay. Sometime later a couple of bodies were retrieved and the two were announced dead.

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Postby Mach Sabre on Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:32 pm

There's more clues... But you gotta find 'em. :P
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Postby Tainwulf on Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:41 pm

Damn my eyepatch style is catching on! Maybe next time I'll go for a hook hand......
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Postby Flower on Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:32 pm

The only other clues I can see are from the scars on her arms. I have a strange feeling I'm going to have to go back and read everything from the beginning again... Damn you guys, stealing my days away from me :-P
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Postby Akamaz on Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:12 pm

ok, so it's time to look around nd see who besides allejandro has blue eyes, cuz that's a likely cantidate for beckas dad (since blue eyes are recessive)
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Postby Tainwulf on Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:43 pm

Sawyer has blue eyes......

Or maybe they're gonna pull a Cartman and Charon will be her father by parthenogenesis.
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Postby Jacobus on Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:01 pm

I stand by it being DA Charles Bear
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Postby Tainwulf on Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:45 pm

Remember, Paul is on at least semi-friendly terms with the person. Also the idea of their identity was disgusting to him, so there has to be a twist of some sort.
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Postby Charles on Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:45 pm

We're not certain about Sawyer's age but he was 11 and his little brother, Clinton, was 7 when they moved from Seattle to Innsmouth (note: Jackson's parents hail from Seattle, although Jackson was born in Innsmouth). Their mother killed their father to protect them from him and they were sent to separate foster homes (presumably Patrick stayed in Innsmouth but who's foster home was he in and where did his brother go?). The mother was sentenced to jail for at least 20 years.

If we presume it was less than a year before Patrick's Mother killed his father to protect him then Patrick would be no more than 12 years old and if we presume his mother has not yet served 20 years then he should be about 31. Only a year older than Charon and since Innsmouth is probably too small to have more than one high-school, I'd dare say we can presume that they did go to school together and were probably only a year apart.

If we presume it was a few more years before Patrick's Mother killed his father to protect him then Patrick's brother Clinton could have been 10-11 and if we presume again that his mother has not yet served 20 years then Clinton would be 29-30 years old and may possibly have attended school with Charon in roughly the same year.

But I think we all know the real truth of who Becka's father is... It's Chuck the Australian Trucky... Who else would send her a Koala bear in hospital :D :roll:
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Postby Jacobus on Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:59 pm

Tainwulf wrote:Remember, Paul is on at least semi-friendly terms with the person. Also the idea of their identity was disgusting to him, so there has to be a twist of some sort.


Mhmm.
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It is Jackson. His and Charon's discussion was about her thinking Becka was his. He then questions this and goes to Paul. Paul validates the claim and is disgusted by the fact that Jackson has 2 illegitimate children, who are both from teenage mothers, etc.
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Postby Charles on Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:09 pm

Actually... I can see a certain sense in the thought that whoever this guy is, he's too old to have "been" with Charon when she was 14-15 and thats the reason Paul is disgusted at the admission by this man that he could be the father.
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Postby SporkBot on Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:45 am

Jacobus wrote:B)
It is Jackson. His and Charon's discussion was about her thinking Becka was his. He then questions this and goes to Paul. Paul validates the claim and is disgusted by the fact that Jackson has 2 illegitimate children, who are both from teenage mothers, etc.


However, this theory would have to include mind-wiping Jackson's memory of bedding his high-school sweetheart. Remember in issue number 1, his entire reason for NOT being there for Charon after Becka was born was because she was reaped from what some other dude had sewn. He loathed the fact that their unspoken not-quite-a-promise to each other went all null and void. If Jackson is Becka's biological father, he'd have to have been drugged/ensorcelled to not remember the act.

Charles wrote:Actually... I can see a certain sense in the thought that whoever this guy is, he's too old to have "been" with Charon when she was 14-15 and thats the reason Paul is disgusted at the admission by this man that he could be the father.


That's a possiblity. But looking over the last Epilogue page, recall that Becka's pappy says he "appreciates" what Paul did. That little box seems to indicate they're on a first name basis, and that they've developed some form of relationship (friends, co-workers, etc.) That's not something that'd likely be said by someone in the BloodWatch or EOD (at least, if Paul KNEW of such an association). Paul's disgust COULD professional; doing the DNA test secretly, without consent or knowledge of either MacKay. However, I do lean towards the "too old even back then" reason, and not just because it takes me back to my earlier assertion that perhaps it was Philiboyd Banks that did the dirty deed.
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Postby Charles on Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:26 pm

If Phill is the culprit then Charon is Christmas Snow's step mom and Mistletoe Snow's Step grandmother while Jackson is her step-son-in-law... Yeah I could understand why she would turn down a relationship with him them *LOL*. Also, Becka is Christmas Snow's half-sister and Mistletoe Snow's Aunty :shock:

I agree though. Paul's disgust could easily be over doing the test in secret as much as the age of the potential father... I wonder what favor Paul owed the person.

Also, apparently Charon doesn't know who the father is so it could easily be the case that both Charon and the father don't remember the incident. Of course that means there would have to be a good reason that the man might suspect he is the father despite not remembering "the deed". If this is the case then there's probably a clue somewhere in the comic that shows some genetic heritage that he picked up on (left handed, eyes, hair, face, habits, etc.)
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Postby Tainwulf on Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:07 pm

When considering who might be disgusting Paul on asking for it, just keep in mind that it could be for other factors then age. A particularly good reason to feel disgusted is if the person in question has a wife and kid(s) other then Charon and Becka ;) I'm split between Jack / Sawyer / and oddly enough Charon. I say Charon because I suspect that there's a good chance the chrysalis pulled a Jesus style parthenogenesis on her.

Although the koala bear comment does lead me to wonder, what are the surviving Insiders up to?
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Postby SporkBot on Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:25 am

OOOH! OOOOOOOOOOHHH! I just thought of something else!

What if Paul's disgust isn't so much from who's asking or that he asked for a DNA test, but that he convinced Paul to FAKE results? Like someone wants everyone to think he's Becka's father for some reason, and the "thrice checked" that Paul did was to make sure the forgery was nigh-infallible?!

Spooky, isn't it?!

But probably wrong. Just a slim possibility I came up with, maybe a half hour ago.
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